tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23322004.post1805375859559526624..comments2023-03-24T07:17:32.418-07:00Comments on Which Way is Mecca?: Lyin' Ayaan and the Moderate MuslimsStarjackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13336684594171723329noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23322004.post-41406504283262761692008-01-09T07:45:00.000-08:002008-01-09T07:45:00.000-08:00Well Put... I get so sick of reading, hearing, and...Well Put... I get so sick of reading, hearing, and seeing about the Radicals of Islam, that if I didnt know any better, I would also believe that they were the only type of Muslims... But in the same breath I hold Us (moderate Muslims) responsible as well.Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00118974176604858864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23322004.post-85653333589490377012008-01-01T15:51:00.000-08:002008-01-01T15:51:00.000-08:00Most of the American Muslim establishment is compr...Most of the American Muslim establishment is comprised of Islamist groups claiming to be moderates. True moderate Muslims reject Islamic supremacy and Sharia; embrace religious equality and democracy.<BR/><BR/>Poll: <A HREF="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/01/poll-who-is-moderate-muslim.html" REL="nofollow">Who is a moderate Muslim</A>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23322004.post-5658192789605071422007-12-08T18:54:00.000-08:002007-12-08T18:54:00.000-08:00Jack,Well said, indeed, we are every where, and ar...Jack,<BR/><BR/>Well said, indeed, we are every where, and are ignored.<BR/><BR/>I was on Chris Plante show on Thursday night, a washington DC talk show host, it was a good dialogue and I will be writing about it. I said the same thing to him what you have summarized in a few precise words " we are every where, just look beyond the press releases of neo cons.<BR/><BR/>Ayan Hirsi Ali starts her article Silence of Moderates with an<BR/>authentic verse from Qur'aan.<BR/><BR/>"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each<BR/>of them with 100 stripes: Let no compassion move you in their case,<BR/>in a matter prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day." (Koran 24:2).<BR/><BR/>My first task was to check at least a few translations to ensure that the translation is representative and it is. In the upcoming article by the same title with a rebuttal, I have produced at least 13 translations including an extremist's version so we know, what we see is not necessarily the truth.<BR/><BR/>Ms. Ali, has deliberately excluded the compassion part that goes with<BR/>it.<BR/><BR/>Ayan Hirsi Ali has a tough question to answer. Would she approve adultery, premarital sex with her own family members if she were head of her family? Would she ignore the rapists, would she approve the abortions? Should we let people do what they want that which affects the public health? Who is going to bear the consequences of such acts<BR/>that result in spread of STD's? Sex Crimes and the likes of it.<BR/>Wouldn't she consider those as irresponsible acts?<BR/><BR/>Some members of the Dutch society do not consider sex with friend's<BR/>wife or husband or a co-worker as a taboo, they look to it as a need<BR/>and some one needs to fulfill it. It is adultery in America (and<BR/>India or Saudi Arabia), hypocritically if it were the wife who has committed the adultery, she will be brutally murdered. The American Crime statistics (finalizing it). Moving to India, it is a taboo, and<BR/>the mother in law will strangle the woman regardless of whether she<BR/>is Hindu, Christian or a Muslim, and going all the way to the other<BR/>end – the Sudanese, the Saudis and the Iranians will mete out 100<BR/>lashes for fornications or stone them to death for adultery.<BR/><BR/>God gives laws and it is the man who has to follow it. God gives the<BR/>punishment for some one violating the laws, but God also gives<BR/>compassion. The one who is most dear to God is the one who forgives,says the Qur'aan.<BR/><BR/>Here is the kicker; Of the 57 some Muslim majority nations, Saudi,<BR/>Iran, Sudan and Afghanistan follow that command to lash the guilty,<BR/>but most others follow the compassion route. Those who do not want to follow the law in their lands, we welcome them to our shores, and we are a compassionate and forgiving people. Welcome to America, are they?<BR/><BR/>By the way those of you who know much about plagiarism, compare her<BR/>article below to the one I wrote 7 days prior:<BR/>http://www.mikeghouse.net/Articles/Where-is-the-Muslim-Outrage.asp<BR/><BR/>The piece is about ready.<BR/><BR/>Mike Ghouse<BR/>www.MikeGhouse.netMike Ghousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01647894600183489442noreply@blogger.com